Ronaldo, Redknapp, priority and sacrifice

Posted on February 22, 2009  by Stretford-end  in Arsenal, Champions League, Liverpool, Man United, Spurs, Transfer Targets   3 Comments »

Ronaldo with European Cup

Ronaldo’s petulance

Those who watched the game on Setanta Sports will have had the misfortune of being subjected to Craig Burley’s personal singling out of Cristiano following his flick out against Blackburn, saying that this was the “3rd or 4th time” he’s done it this season, before later correcting it to “4th or 5th time”, highlighting the incidents at Tottenham and Stoke (so that makes it the 3rd).

I won’t make excuses, Ronaldo probably deserved to go. But where was the same vilification when Diouf did the same shortly after? And, perhaps more significantly, where were the statements of uproar when Ronaldo trudged off pitches in the autumn with stud marks and bruises clearly visible all over his legs?

Indeed, David Dunn was giving Ronaldo more than just a little personal attention when our winger retaliated. Perhaps to those who believe they walk on a moral high ground they will say two wrongs don’t make a right and Ronaldo should go (without making any kind of comment about the treatment he has suffered prior to his lashes out). As Craig Burley said “Ronaldo is supposed to be world player of the year. He should be used to this treatment”.

Really? Should he? Maybe he’s grown tired of the lack of action taken against his numerous attackers so he’s decided to do something about it. Some would call it petulant, just as many violent. But there’s a small pocket of us who would call it retribution.

Seven points clear and a trip to the San Siro

Liverpool’s title challenge lasted longer than most expected – the leaves are normally just falling off the trees rather than wondering when it’s time to come back – okay, maybe a little tongue in cheek there, as there is still a long way to go and despite their latest setback they have shown the resilience to avoid defeat. Generally this has been Rafael Benitez’s trademark and as such he is recognised as a good Cup manager, but there is still time for them to change those draws into wins.

Nevertheless, City’s unexpected result at Anfield gave United some cheer heading into the Champions League 2nd round at the San Siro on Tuesday night. Cheer that’s badly needed given the potential defensive mis-shape – the last time we were so badly afflicted for selection at the back was probably our last trip to Milan almost two years ago, and no-one needs a reminder of how that turned out.

That said, even John O’Shea has a calmer head on his shoulders, and though I suspect Fergie was keen to avoid selecting Rafael in the away leg, in being almost forced to do so he may see the making of the youngster. Against Barcelona’s riches at the Nou Camp only Ferdinand and Evra from our “first choice” four played, so there is cause for some optimism, or at least, little negativity.

From a result perspective, a score draw or even a score in defeat by the odd goal wouldn’t be a disaster.

Harry Redknapp and the fine line of a priority and sacrifice

The last 5 days have showed and the next 8 days will show the difference in mentality between Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United, but more relevantly, show the shortcomings of Harry Redknapp as a manager of a “top, top” club, and why long term he is probably not the right choice for Spurs.

Prioritising team selection with one eye on the next game is all well and good but one thing that has constantly baffled me over the last 2 years or so (finally enough to provoke me into blogging about it) is the decision of some managers to treat the UEFA Cup with such contempt.

Redknapp all but threw the towel in before what (on paper at least) seemed a very winnable tie against Spartak Moscow and has more or less conceded defeat for the second leg by declaring he is going to give debuts to teenagers. His reasoning for this is that the Cup final is a more important game.

In isolation, he may have a fair point. And with Fergie saying that our team is going to be the same as the one that has qualified for the final, Spurs will arguably go into the game as favourites. But if they do win the game, what then? The whole point is to qualify for Europe, for the same “glory nights” they earned the right to have this season, the same nights which Harry is arguably pissing up the wall.

It’s not just a point against Redknapp, it’s a bizarre epidemic that reaches far and wide. Gary Megson inexplicably left 7 first teamers at home as Bolton travelled to Sporting Lisbon with more than a fighting chance of making the UEFA Cup quarter finals last year. They went out, narrowly, leaving the travelling fans wondering what might have been. A surprise package in Zenit went onto win the trophy and although it turned out that they were actually a very strong side at the time, surely there is a massive “what if?” lingering for some Trotters fans. And with a potential clash with AC Milan as a carrot for sides in this season’s competition, I can’t for the life of me understand why it isn’t being treated with seriousness.

I’m aware the argument in principle is a very fair one, that the priority is Premier League survival.

But should the priority be at the sacrifice at everything else? Teams at the 3rd and 4th round stages of the FA Cup field weak sides with the guise that survival is their priority but when you get 10 or 11 sides doing this and you know three of those sides will get relegated, it seems such a shame to the fans of those sides who get relegated or narrowly avoid it that their manager robbed them of the chance of a little bit of excitement in the Cup competitions.

Of course it’s just my opinion but last season’s FA Cup quarter finals as well as Middlesbrough‘s fantastic UEFA Cup run a few years back should have at least served as a glorious reminder of the feeling of success against the feeling of another season of underachievement.

Personally, I feel that progression in competitions has just as much potential to provide an extra buzz and enthusiasm as it does to provide a hindrance. There’s a fine line between team selection and sacrifice and I just happen to feel sorry for the fans of such clubs, as well as lucky that Sir Alex recognises the difference. That’s why, win or lose in the Carling Cup final, I at least won’t bemoan the team selection.

For every manager you get bemoaning that there are too many games you’ll probably be able to find 20,000 fans who can’t get enough of the games coming thick and fast. Yes, perhaps the footballers cannot play to optimum ability with so many games, yes, that’s why teams have big squads and yes, of course teams with smaller squads will always use that as an excuse. At the end of the day though it’s still only 90 minutes of (occasionally) chasing a ball around a fantastically kept piece of lawn. I’m not Frank Lampard’s biggest fan but think of the stick he gets for his supposedly generously proportioned body, and then take into consideration he almost never misses a game for Chelsea.

What do others think? Am I being too much of a fantasist? Has the game changed so much that fans accept being out of cup competitions at the earliest opportunity in order to supposedly increase chance of league stability?

If you’ve managed to get to the end of the blog, thanks for reading! Let me know what you think on any of the issues.

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Do Poll’s comments re: Rafa actually indicate United are treated unfairly by refs?

Posted on January 12, 2009  by Stretford-end  in Liverpool, Man United   No Comments »

Graham Poll had his say on Mad Rafa’s rant over the weekend -


“Rafa Benitez has articulated what referees have been thinking for years – that Sir Alex Ferguson can say what he wants about them and the FA will allow him to get away with it,” he told the Daily Mail.

“The authorities could point to Ferguson’s two-match ban imposed earlier this season as proof that he is not out of reach of their disciplinary department, but that was for marching onto the field after the 4-3 win over Hull and for comments made directly to the referee, Mike Dean, who in reporting the misconduct forced the FA’s hand”. 


If there is an underlying feeling of resentment against Ferguson and subsequently the club, does this not indicate that far from receiving preferential treatment, United are likely to start games with a handicap?

Having seen the cuts and physical scars Ronaldo suffered earlier this season and the way we get about 25% of the penalty decisions that we actually deserve, do we take Poll’s comments seriously, is there in fact a trend among officials to hinder United?

The comments were made by Poll in justification of Rafael Benitez’s rant, though surely they have the complete opposite effect by clearly implying that certain officials “have it in” for Fergie and United.

In my humble opinion Poll should be made to name and shame the individuals who have a grudge against Ferguson so those officials should not be considered for top flight games for the good of the integrity of the sport.

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Rafael “Keegan” Benitez goes on meltdown – the Stretford-End “Dossier”.

Posted on January 09, 2009  by Stretford-end  in Liverpool, Man United   7 Comments »

Of course I’m sure you’ve all had a chance to witness “Rafa’s” rant at Fergie. If not, go here – http://www.skysports.com/video/clips/0,23791,12606_4770525,00.html

Of course, again, perhaps you don’t need me to pick apart and dissect Benitez’s crackpot claims. But I’m pedantic like that.

I wasn’t quite clear whether it was intended as a joke or he seriously meant it but as I watch it again I believe the old coot is actually serious.

First of all, being asked a question and then pulling out a sheet of paper (then claiming he doesn’t want to start “mind games” – a repeated comment)!!

The whole fixtures comment – on the one hand it seems like he’s slating Fergie for having the gaul to question how it can be possible for United to draw the top 10 sides from last season all away, all before Christmas and after each European tie. But then he goes on to say they had early kick offs 2 years ago. And they didn’t say anything.

Erm, what’s this then Rafa? It looks suspiciously like you’re saying something. About something that happened 2 years ago. AND this season – “at Christmas.. we were at Newcastle two days after playing Bolton. They were not complaining then”.

Why would he be? Your club, your problems!

“Only Mr Ferguson can talk about referees and not be punished”. But Rafa you said he was banned and fined £10 k??

“We started the respect campaign with the sending off of Mascherano at Old Trafford”.

He wants some kudos for his player being uncontrollable? Oh no, wait, he’s blaming Bennett. For the red card and for not awarding Wigan a penalty against us last season. He’s talking facts, but doesn’t mention the fact Bennett didn’t award a penalty for the clear foul on Scholes in the same game.

“To complain and to always have an advantage is not fair”

I thought this was supposed to be a factual enlightenment? Not some exhibition of Rafa’s successful transformation into bitter bin dipper.

“And I was very clear, forget the campaign because Mr Ferguson was killing the referees, killing Mr Atkinson, killing Mr Hackett. But he is not punished.”

Apart from the £10k fine and 2 game ban then? But you mentioned that didn’t you, Rafa? I’m confused!

Of course all of this is laughable – all the more ironic when you consider one of his players who is currently on charge of ABH is allowed to play football when Eric Cantona wasn’t after Selhurst Park (quite rightly, but I’m showing the FA double standards), when you consider that one of his players wrote in an autobiography that he deliberately injured a team mate and also sent two friends to physically assaulting a player who had injured him and escaped unpunished while Roy Keane was given an ADDITIONAL 5 match ban and £150k fine for a deliberate foul he’d already been suspended for due to admitting it was deliberate in his autobiography.

And considering the supporters of his own club who mugged each other for Champions League Final tickets then bombarded the barriers so those with legit tickets couldn’t get in (narrowly escaping another Heysel) escaped unpunished, but ours get attacked by the Italian police and Roma’s Ultras and we get fined.. (Yes I accept our own supporters were not angels in this instance. This really just illustrates the point).

I recently wrote about this in our forum. If any club is the beneficiary of collective myopia – or “diplomatic immunity”, if you will – by the sports governing bodies, it’s that classless bunch from up the M62.

Still, nice to see that there’s life in the auld dog yet.

Well played Sir Alex, well played.

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Player v.s club – where does the power lie nowadays?

Posted on October 06, 2008  by Stretford-end  in Arsenal, Chelsea, Citeh, Liverpool, Man United, Press, Transfer Targets   No Comments »

Top football magazine, FourFourTwo, have produced a quality article in their November edition that examines the player vs. club issue and where the power lies – you can’t miss the issue as it has Cantona’s face with graying beard on the front cover. We’re always reminded that ‘players wouldn’t get away with that in my day’ or ‘he’d get a clip round the ear and spend some times in the ressies’ when analysing the behaviour of some of today’s players – but does the power really lie with the player or do the clubs have more of say?

‘Well i’m pretty loyal i’ve only played for Bournemouth, Luton, Millwall, Palace, Birmingham Leicester….’

Ronaldo, Barry, Adebayor, Villa, Santi Cazorla, Lampard and Robinho are all featured in the article – which is interesting, considering that, of the players mentioned, only Robinho managed to move clubs on deadline day. Of course Tottenham would add Berbatov and Keane to that list, which would obviously flaw the point i’m trying to make – but out of the players mentioned only the Brazilian decided to jump ship and sign for Citeh on deadline day. Does this now mean that even with the Bosman ruling and the Webster ruling that clubs have the power?

‘Uri Geller would change the face of football forever’

Yes, we live in a football society where it seems for the top footballers, money is no object. Cristiano Ronaldo can easily command a mammoth £120,000 a week salary – which some people find amazing.

One person that wouldn’t find this extortionate (well maybe the sum for his day and age but in terms of ability being rewarded – he’d appreciate this) is former Red Billy Meredith, who in his day was the first footballing superstar. Meredith fought toothpick and nail to scrap the maximum wage that was forced upon footballers in those days – with the authorities labeling him greedy and a rebel. Meredith was in fact neither – just a player who wanted to be rewarded for his superior footballing talent. Why should he not be rewarded for training harder (in his own words) and being blessed with more naturally ability than the players of his time (not his own words)? In a sense I agree. Why should Ronaldo or Rooney be restricted in terms of how much they earn? Yes, they’ll be the argument that money then dictates where a player will end up. As we well know Ronaldo’s ‘childhood dream’ was to play at Real Madrid – so if there was a wage cap – I doubt he would still be at the club.

‘Meredith flies past Bolton’s very own Chucklebrothers’

The article reveals that ‘Ronaldo and Robinho were exactly the same, only Robinho had the bottle to force a move’. Although, according to everyone’s favourite spokesperson – Pele, Robinho was at at the end of his tether to leave Real Madrid after the way the Spanish Champions had used Robinho in open transfer negotiations of our number 7. Let’s not beat around the bush – Robinho would have signed for Union Niederkappel as long as he got out of Madrid. Citeh have a ton of money and as shown by a mediocre side in Chelsea – money can help you in your quest for silverware. I’m not saying that money is the only resource needed to challenge for honours – not at all, but it does help massively towards achiving that goal.

Would Chelsea had of signed Essien for £24Million? Or Drogba for roughly the same amount? No of course not – this leads again to the point that rich clubs hold the cards over the players – they do not always get their own way as the media sometimes make out.

Robinho (aided by Maradona for some reason):’I'm so pleased to sign for Chelsea..NO!..Arsenal…NO!…Milan….NO!..Wait a second..

Manchester United stood strong over Ronaldo in the summer – a testament to the manager – who would not be bullied into submission; like there was any other outcome. This story has been discussed to death – but the importance of the fact that Fergie kept Madrid at bay, highlights that players don’t always get their own way. Ronaldo could have, if he’d have done a Robinho, ruined his reputation entirely – without getting any reward.

Its a bit different over at Arsenal and Chelsea where it looks like there was a share of power over the summer. Both Adebayor and Lampard flirted with the idea of moving away from their clubs and both were rewarded with handsome contracts. In this case are all parties happy? Well, nearly all expect for Barcelona and Inter Milan.

Gareth Barry’s situation aswell showed how much power the clubs have. Liverpool felt that Barry would go to them for a knock down fee due to unsettling the player but O’Neill stood strong and gave the attitude: ‘He can leave – for this price’. Obviously Benitez didn’t fancy forking out the £18Million for the ex-Villa captain and thus left it be.

‘Barry tried to hide his desire to leave for as long as possible’

I’m sure i’m due some criticism in brining up transfer rumours that everyone is sick of from the summer. The important thing though to remember is that although it is the clubs that, well in most cases over the summer, hold the cards – the players are deeply concerned by their reputation which is ultimately created and destroyed by the fans. We help to create heroes and unmask villains dependent on how they leave the club and in what circumstances they conduct themselves afterwards.

Are they welcomed back to the club with open arms, old songs chanting around the ground OR do they endure the barrage of abuse that will ultimately come their way? Ronaldo was very smart in not handing in a transfer request as he knew that his reputation could be destroyed in a matter of days. Robinho on the other hand was always classified as a talented player but was not a first team regular for Real Madrid in his time he spent with club. No doubt talented, the fee paid by Citeh for him was astonishing and faced the fact that every player has their price and that clubs do hold the cards; well nearly all clubs.

‘So Daniel, where do you stand on who holds the power?’
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Javier Masch-moano

Posted on March 24, 2008  by Stretford-end  in Liverpool, Man United   2 Comments »

At any level of any game of football you know that you’re going to get booked if you persistently question the referees decision – although Mascherano looked like he was on a mission to be sent off. He was rightfully booked for a wild challenge on Paul Scholes, which for some strange reason he continued to debate. Then shown a second yellow, followed by a red, for dissent. Of course Benitez and Mascherano stated that all he asked was ‘What was that for?’. I sense it’s the same defensive reaction of Matthew Simmons (the moronic Crystal Palace fan) who stated that he ran 22 rows, ran past fellow fans hurling them out of the way to shout ‘It’s an early bath for you Mr Cantona’ – Although I tend to believe that was more true than Mascherano’s pathetic explanation.

To be honest I think Mascherano is good player, a very good player who closes down well, is disciplined (usually) and can pass a ball. But if I was Benitez, I’d be livid with him. Of course you want to defend your player, but Mascherano continued to get involved with things that had nothing to do with him. The sending off incident actually was after Liverpool where awarded a freekick for a foul on Torres. Mascherano then took it upon himself to rage at Steve Bennett for booking Torres, who was also moaning. There were no biased decisions, there were no favours – Liverpool, more specifically Mascherano and Torres, were an embarrassment yesterday with regards to ‘toys out of the pram’. United were miles the better side and if it was not for the heroic of Reina , it would have been more.

Any player that plays football knows how frustrating it is when a ref doesn’t give you a decision OR pulls you up for something you believe was fair. What complaints can Mascherano have from yesterday? He hounded Bennett a good 5 or 6 times prior to actually being sent off. Regardless of the actions of Cole in the 4-4 draw with Spurs – Mascherano should still of been sent off as he was an absolute pain in the arse for the ref. As stated previously he looked like a man on a mission to be sent off and Steve Bennett was 100% correct in giving him his marching orders.

Mascherano at Old Trafford yesterday.
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Liverpool siege mentality? Or forced upon pressure?

Posted on February 26, 2008  by Stretford-end  in Liverpool   5 Comments »

So, Liverpool “master tactician”, Rafa Benitez, believes it is easier to find success in the Champions League than the Premiership? I have a theory that backs up maybe why that is. Firstly, lets examine Liverpool under Benitez’s reign:

1 Champions League Win & 1 FA Cup win (major trophies excluding the European Super Cup and Intercontinental Cup).

Pretty good to be honest. In four years he has won (although rather fortunately) the Champions League and triumphed in the oldest domestic cup in the world. But we’re always being constantly told that ‘Liverpool would triumph in the league if he stopped his squad rotation policy’. I think that is utter garbage and fans who believe this need to open their eyes.

Liverpool’s squad isn’t as good as the other top teams in the Premiership. Aside from the two world class players that they have in Gerrard and Torres, they can not compete with the other three sides. This season they have drawn twice with Chelsea, lost to United and drawn with Arsenal. Combine this with a defeat away to Reading and home draws with Aston Villa and Wigan, it is no surprise to see them fighting for a Champions League place. However, will they need that 4th spot if they repeat their 2005 success?

The 2005 final was a freak and I doubt we’ll ever see a Milan side ever throw away a 3 goal lead again. Having said that it showed great character and determination to claw back three goals. But what about the other competitions? 5th in the Premiership and miles behind Chelsea and went out of the FA Cup to Burnley. Season after as European Champions they go out to Benfica but win the FA Cup. Lastly, the 2006/07 season, they finished light years behind United and went out in the third round to Arsenal – however they reached the European Cup final ahead of tired rivals Chelsea and United. This gets me to the theory…

Ferguson, Clough and Mourinho to name a few successful managers over the years used a certain type of mentality to fire up players. This was in the form of a siege mentality that everyone is against us and we need to rally together in order to overcome this. The difference between Ferguson’s United, Clough’s Forest or Mourinho’s Chelsea was that they were fighting for a lot more than Benitez’s Liverpool.

Looking at Liverpool against Inter Milan it was like a different team (and no not down to the squad rotation), a team that has nothing else to play for. Liverpool’s siege mentality isn’t reserved for those European nights. Benitez has stumbled upon this by having been eliminated from every other competition. The media then build him up as some master tactician that knows how to outwit European opposition. I guarantee, if Liverpool were lead leaders, they wouldn’t have beaten Inter Milan (who are league leaders for their domestic title) the other night. Liverpool deploy a defensive counter attack system, which yes can help to exploit attack minded teams in Europe. His two holding midfield policy does help to stifle space in attacking third for Liverpool’s opponents but at what attacking cost? Liverpool have succeeded in Europe due to the defensive tactics that Benitez adopts and also the fact that they have nothing else to play for so their players are fitter.

Now i’m not a bitter red as some Liverpool fans may think, why would I be bitter? I do think we sing a little too much about Liverpool at Old Trafford, which should only be reserved to when we play Liverpool. But I can’t help to see that the media play on this ‘European tactician tag’ with Benitez. It’s painting a false picture of how far away Liverpool are from competing for a number of honours. Liverpool are a top side, but world class? European Champions class? They shouldn’t be.

Running out of time?  Or running out of luck?

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